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consulate in benghazi, libya. president obama has ordered that flags fly at half staff across the united states and at embassies around the world until sunday night. >>> i'm wolf blitzer in for piers morgan. earlier today the republican challenger, mitt romney, blasted president obama for what he characterized as, quote, an apology for america's values over the storming of the u.s. embassy in cairo. >> an apology for america's values is never the right course. >> the president fired right back in an interview tonight with cbs news. >> governor romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and name later, and as president, one of the things i've learned is you can't do that. you know, it's important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and that you've thought through the ramifications before you make them. >> and there are late-breaking developments right now. two u.s. navy warships of moving toward the coast of libya and 50 marines are on the ground in tripoli right no
consulate in benghazi, libya. president obama has ordered that flags fly at half staff across the united states and at embassies around the world until sunday night. >>> i'm wolf blitzer in for piers morgan. earlier today the republican challenger, mitt romney, blasted president obama for what he characterized as, quote, an apology for america's values over the storming of the u.s. embassy in cairo. >> an apology for america's values is never the right course. >> the...
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you're talking about libya and egypt? >> libya. just libya. do we know -- just libya. do we know if the group that launched the grenade actually coordinated with the protesters or the protesters were aware or talking with the other group, the grenade group, in this attack that happened in libya in the consulate there? >> we do not know that, but at this stage it does appear that there was this core and, remember, what secretary of state hillary clinton said this morning. a small and vicious group, which was carrying out this attack, so, again, not totally confirmed, but it would appear that there is a demonstration going on, and then this core uses that and attacks. >> is the state department, is the secretary -- are they close at all to identifying who that group might have been? is there an investigation that is taking place with libyan authorities to find out who did this? >> oh, they are definitely starting that. the fbi will be involved, but at this point it's very early, and nobody is definitively saying who did that. >> all right. jill, thank you very much. very
you're talking about libya and egypt? >> libya. just libya. do we know -- just libya. do we know if the group that launched the grenade actually coordinated with the protesters or the protesters were aware or talking with the other group, the grenade group, in this attack that happened in libya in the consulate there? >> we do not know that, but at this stage it does appear that there was this core and, remember, what secretary of state hillary clinton said this morning. a small and...
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> you know, as his tour in libya. you cannot say this is not freedom fighters. they want to be free of the government. i don't know why they watch. >> libya got nato's help. syria for now gets his. >> he has to -- >> the syrian regime blames foreign radicals trying to conger up fears of a takeover by islamist extremists. while he embraces religion, he dismisses extremism and al qaeda altogether. >> i'm only student. i left my money, my student, my family. not al qaeda. we're not coming to corrupt this country. we came here to help. >> reporter: there could be thousands of foreign fighters in syria. some radical. some not. while rebels may want battle harden the fighters here now, they may regret that when the extremists decide to stay, says one expert. >> i think we don't have any benefit in having them, but i think at this point because of their weaker weaponry and training and ability, they may need them to fight. if you assume the fighting is going to be finished, as in they are there to stay and what we might witn
> you know, as his tour in libya. you cannot say this is not freedom fighters. they want to be free of the government. i don't know why they watch. >> libya got nato's help. syria for now gets his. >> he has to -- >> the syrian regime blames foreign radicals trying to conger up fears of a takeover by islamist extremists. while he embraces religion, he dismisses extremism and al qaeda altogether. >> i'm only student. i left my money, my student, my family. not al...
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these incidents happened in both cairo and libya today. both have been linkeded to the movie that allegedly mocks the prophet mohammed andeen said it said some horrible things. it is coincidence or intentional these happened on september 11th? >> my guess is could i incidence. this looks like those cartoons in denmark where you had unrest in afghanistan and pakistan. i think the coincidence of the date is just that, coincidence. >> let me bring in ed hussein, as well. senior fellow of middle eastern studies and the council on foreign relations. ed, thanks for taking the time to be with us, as well. what does this mean for the united states? i mean, obviously, tension is high. but what is the significance of this happening in two places on the same day against the u.s.? >> well, i think i'm in agreement with phil. this is not a coincidence. this is by design. but i think several things stand out. one, that the narrative that the arab spring was all led by liberal secularists and how the middle east is now warm and friendly towards america a
these incidents happened in both cairo and libya today. both have been linkeded to the movie that allegedly mocks the prophet mohammed andeen said it said some horrible things. it is coincidence or intentional these happened on september 11th? >> my guess is could i incidence. this looks like those cartoons in denmark where you had unrest in afghanistan and pakistan. i think the coincidence of the date is just that, coincidence. >> let me bring in ed hussein, as well. senior fellow...
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i think there was a similar dynamic not only in libya, in sudan. we may be to some degree pawns in this. in several of these countries you've had people who feel they've played a major role, took huge risks in these revolutions and that they've been kind of marginalized since then. and they see this as a chance to gain public support to embarrass their governments, and there's kind of a competition between, wel them. and the attack on the u.s. embassy is part of the drama. but it's less about us than about that competition. i would argue. >> this anti-islamic film, how much of that is responsible for the anti-u.s. violence or is that just an excuse? >> well, i think it's both. i mean, i think if you talk to an awful lot of just ordinary muslims around the world, there's real indig nation at it. it hit every button possible. and i think a lot of people who didn't grow up from a free society assume that the u.s. government is somehow behind it or condoning it. and so there's that back drop. and then i think on top of that, then you have extremists wh
i think there was a similar dynamic not only in libya, in sudan. we may be to some degree pawns in this. in several of these countries you've had people who feel they've played a major role, took huge risks in these revolutions and that they've been kind of marginalized since then. and they see this as a chance to gain public support to embarrass their governments, and there's kind of a competition between, wel them. and the attack on the u.s. embassy is part of the drama. but it's less about...
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consulate in benghazi, libya. can you update us? >> it's my understanding there were nearly two dozen armed individuals that coordinated explosions and other things. this is the same site that was attacked with an ied about a month or so ago. very, very concerning, and it's concerning that this is a repeat target for them and that this may have been more successful because of the large scale of it. so it's, again, very, very concerning. we have seen al qaeda elements in libya spring up, as we have seen in tunisia, as well. all of that is concerning. we still don't know for certain yet, as i speak to you today or tonight, who is responsible and who's claimed responsibility. so those details are still unfolding. >> it is a coincidence or not that this is the anniversary of 9/11? and we see not only what's going on in libya, but they were attacking the u.s. embassy in cairo, as well on this day. is there a connection here? >> well, from what i have been led to believe as i stand here, there's no connection yet identified after the coor
consulate in benghazi, libya. can you update us? >> it's my understanding there were nearly two dozen armed individuals that coordinated explosions and other things. this is the same site that was attacked with an ied about a month or so ago. very, very concerning, and it's concerning that this is a repeat target for them and that this may have been more successful because of the large scale of it. so it's, again, very, very concerning. we have seen al qaeda elements in libya spring up,...
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four americans in libya. >> the violence there, and at the u.s. embassy in cairo is being fueled by an anti-muslim video made here in the united states. >> u.s. marines being called in as enforcements in been gone sea. >> the romney campaign already drafted a critical statement saying the obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions but to sympathize with those that waged the attacks. here's the problem with that. the romney statement was sent to reporters just after 10:00 p.m. on tuesday with the caveat it not be released until after midnight. it was sent before many of the facts were gathered. the statement is wrong because the obama administrations official statement from the secretary of state released just before the romney statement reads like this. i condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in benghazi today. our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. but let me be clear there is never any justification for violent attacks of this kind p
four americans in libya. >> the violence there, and at the u.s. embassy in cairo is being fueled by an anti-muslim video made here in the united states. >> u.s. marines being called in as enforcements in been gone sea. >> the romney campaign already drafted a critical statement saying the obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions but to sympathize with those that waged the attacks. here's the problem with that. the romney...
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>>> the death of the american ambassador to libya. the president of the united states nowhere to be seen. >>> a brawl breaks out at a plant making apple products forcing it to shut down. what is that going to mean for your new iphone? let's go "outfront." >>> good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, iran slaps israel. iran's president ahmadinejad is on american soil tonight and i was with him today. he was smiling, making jokes, very relaxed as he took questions from a group of journalists at his hotel. he kept asking us to exchange views. not just ask questions. but we had a lot of questions to ask. and in his answers, he called israel's threats to attack iran's nuclear program, in his words, a blip on the radar screen. >> translator: principally, we do not take seriously what the scientists say in threatening iran. >> so it's hard to imagine a more clear bow off than that, right? until you hear this. >> translator: they have been ok pieing those territories for the last 60 to 70 years with the support of force of the west
>>> the death of the american ambassador to libya. the president of the united states nowhere to be seen. >>> a brawl breaks out at a plant making apple products forcing it to shut down. what is that going to mean for your new iphone? let's go "outfront." >>> good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, iran slaps israel. iran's president ahmadinejad is on american soil tonight and i was with him today. he was smiling, making jokes, very...
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. >> we also saw after the appalling events in libya a few days ago, a kind of spontaneous and perhaps very ill-advised spontaneous reaction from mitt romney by sort of common agreement that he jumped in very quickly to attack the president at a time when it may have been more prudent to have just backed off, waited for the facts and supported the president and the country through that period. what of that and his comments in the video about the palestinians where he kind of lays the blame at their feet completely, it seems, against israel? what do you think about his hand on the foreign policy tiller? >> well, he's certainly been bumbling when it comes to domestic policy and way beyond his element and comfort level when it comes to foreign policy. i mean, how can you visit england, our trusted ally, and say something that was so outrageous that it turns the british people against him and the comments he made about the olympics. it was just a ham-handed approach to something that should have been a very easy assignment for even a presidential candidate. >> i think the problem with that
. >> we also saw after the appalling events in libya a few days ago, a kind of spontaneous and perhaps very ill-advised spontaneous reaction from mitt romney by sort of common agreement that he jumped in very quickly to attack the president at a time when it may have been more prudent to have just backed off, waited for the facts and supported the president and the country through that period. what of that and his comments in the video about the palestinians where he kind of lays the...
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that was denied by libya. so the fbi has to pass any questions they have through the state department to the libyan government. they put the questions and you wait for sort of like a child's game of telephone that information to come back before you can follow up. not at all the ideal way to run an investigation. >> libyan government says it has questioned dozens of people trying to find out who is behind the attack that killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and others with him. >> most fathers think they know what is best for their daughters. this dad taking it to the extreme. why he wants to pay somebody millions of dollars to marry his daughter. crazy. [ sobbing ] [ male announcer ] layaway's back. shop now and have more time to pay. walmart. it's got that sweet honey taste. but no way it's 80 calories, right? no way, right? lady, i just drive the truck. right, there's no way right, right? have a nice day. [ male announcer ] 80 delicious calories. fiber one. wthe future of our medicare andr electiosocial sec
that was denied by libya. so the fbi has to pass any questions they have through the state department to the libyan government. they put the questions and you wait for sort of like a child's game of telephone that information to come back before you can follow up. not at all the ideal way to run an investigation. >> libyan government says it has questioned dozens of people trying to find out who is behind the attack that killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and others with him. >>...
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. >>> protesters in libya aimed their attack not at america but at the radical islamic group tied to the u.s. consulate attack. hundreds of pro-democracy demonstrators seized the group's headquarters in benghazi overnight, demanding an end to extremist militias in libya. protesters moved on to a second location. but the situation there quickly turned dangerous. and our arwa damon found herself caught in the middle of it all. >> reporter: just on the other side of this wall is the second location that we are told is being struck tonight. but contrary to what we witnessed at the first place here, there seems to be some sort of a gun battle going on. we are hearing sporadic gunfire as well as some other small explosions. >> turns out the protesters were tricked and ended up attacking the headquarters of a battalion backed by the libyan government. at least four people were killed, 70 injured in all of that violence. >>> we're learning more about what happened in the final chaotic moments for two americans who were killed in the u.s. consulate attack. glen doherty and tyrone woods both f
. >>> protesters in libya aimed their attack not at america but at the radical islamic group tied to the u.s. consulate attack. hundreds of pro-democracy demonstrators seized the group's headquarters in benghazi overnight, demanding an end to extremist militias in libya. protesters moved on to a second location. but the situation there quickly turned dangerous. and our arwa damon found herself caught in the middle of it all. >> reporter: just on the other side of this wall is the...
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you know, in libya, for example, there is a pretty small mof people who are protesting against the video, and afterward there were huge numbers who were marching to -- and to apologize to america. >> it's part of a narrative of the u.s. out to get islam. you know, a pakistani mullah once told me that since the united states executes people for committing blasphemy, then why shouldn't pakistan? i said the u.s. executes blasphemers? he said, yeah, president clinton burned to death scores of christian hair ticks. he said month. he pulled off a book off the shelf and pointed to the incident in waco, texas, in 1993. >> oh, my. >> there's a real misunderstanding here that i think also feeds that, and, you know, at the hands of a lot of young men, unemployed, kind of frustrated with their governments, vulnerable to jihadys taking over a maretive using this as a way of pushing back at their own government. i think all of this is kind of coming together. >> and in terms of these protests in the middle east and north africa that we're seeing right now, i mean, are they about religion, do you think
you know, in libya, for example, there is a pretty small mof people who are protesting against the video, and afterward there were huge numbers who were marching to -- and to apologize to america. >> it's part of a narrative of the u.s. out to get islam. you know, a pakistani mullah once told me that since the united states executes people for committing blasphemy, then why shouldn't pakistan? i said the u.s. executes blasphemers? he said, yeah, president clinton burned to death scores of...
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the american ambassador to libya was killed. leon panetta says there are still many unanswered questions that still do need to be resolved. >> as to who was involved, what specific groups were involved, i think the investigation that is ongoing hopefully will determine that. >> the fbi is investigating the attack but agents are not yet on the ground in benghazi due to concerns about security. they're still in tripoli right now and sources tell cnn the consulate site remains unsecured and staff is being removed from there in tripoli due to security reason there. >> the man who ignited this is in custody in los angeles this morning. but authorities claim it has nothing to do with that movie. nakoula basseley nakoula was held on alleged parole violations connected with his violati violation. he used at least 17 fake names including sam basseley, the pseudonym under which he made the film. >>> investigators say the sons anarchy star beat and strangled his 81-year-old land lady before falling from the three-story home to his death. t
the american ambassador to libya was killed. leon panetta says there are still many unanswered questions that still do need to be resolved. >> as to who was involved, what specific groups were involved, i think the investigation that is ongoing hopefully will determine that. >> the fbi is investigating the attack but agents are not yet on the ground in benghazi due to concerns about security. they're still in tripoli right now and sources tell cnn the consulate site remains...
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i think, frankly, we can't blame losing libya on this administration. you know, it was in the works for a long time. there wasn't much it could do. nonetheless we have an election coming up and no one wants to take blame for messing up the arab spring. >> the u.s. ambassador to libya, chris stevens was wrong those killed in that attacks. >>> mitt romney and president obama will both be campaigning in virginia today. they were both in ohio yesterday. you see a trend here? check out the gop challenger in suburban cleveland. getting his hands dirty with the host of discovery's "dirty job" show. the president also in ohio visiting the campus of bowling green yesterday. he promised to create 1 million manufacturing jobs in the next four years if he is re-elected. >>> new technology may make pumping air into your tires a thing of the past. starting next year, goodyear says it will test technology that actually inflates tires while the car is rolling. here's how it works. a sensor detacts one pressure is low, the car's weight compresses a tube built into the t
i think, frankly, we can't blame losing libya on this administration. you know, it was in the works for a long time. there wasn't much it could do. nonetheless we have an election coming up and no one wants to take blame for messing up the arab spring. >> the u.s. ambassador to libya, chris stevens was wrong those killed in that attacks. >>> mitt romney and president obama will both be campaigning in virginia today. they were both in ohio yesterday. you see a trend here? check...
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but there's a much different situation here in libya than there was in kenya and tanzania in 1998. >> how so? >> you don't have a developed government for one thing. >> libyan government. >> the libyan government that doesn't have the robust law enforcement, intelligence, military forces to be able to -- just come into power. trying to deal with a few number of insurgents that are going to cause trouble no matter what. >> the people will ask, what can they do. because frankly it was the united states embassy we're talking about which supposedly is united states tear toirks at least the inside of it. >> right. but internationally, host country always provides the outer perimeter security. so if they failed to do that, then if there's enough people causing an attack it's going to be like the alamo. are going to be able to overwhelm an embassy or consulate. >> so you need host country help. >> you need host country along with adequate security on your part. but definitely the host country has to keep them out of the perimeter in the first place. >> another part this letter. it seems like
but there's a much different situation here in libya than there was in kenya and tanzania in 1998. >> how so? >> you don't have a developed government for one thing. >> libyan government. >> the libyan government that doesn't have the robust law enforcement, intelligence, military forces to be able to -- just come into power. trying to deal with a few number of insurgents that are going to cause trouble no matter what. >> the people will ask, what can they do....
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you know, i think what americans need to understand is for many of these countries, particularly libya to egypt, you know, they just ended over 100 years of dick toral rule, and for many of these countries religion is not something they laugh about. they don't make fun of jesus or moses or muhammad or any religious figures. so i think that, you know, when they see this amateur sophomoric movie come on youtube, sadly, they're thinking that with being the actions of the american people. >> we have seen men and women threatened and even killed for blasphemy. does the koran call for a specific punishment? >> actually, it doesn't at all. actually, unlike judaism and in the bible in the book of mark there's actually no direct prescription on, you know, taking the lord's name in vein and we can neither find any sort of prescription within the sayings of the prophet muhammad. what we see here are the blasphemy laws that we see in ten out of the 57 muslim majority nations on earth. our recent political constructs and in pakistan 640 people have been charged under blasphemy laws between 1986 and
you know, i think what americans need to understand is for many of these countries, particularly libya to egypt, you know, they just ended over 100 years of dick toral rule, and for many of these countries religion is not something they laugh about. they don't make fun of jesus or moses or muhammad or any religious figures. so i think that, you know, when they see this amateur sophomoric movie come on youtube, sadly, they're thinking that with being the actions of the american people. >>...
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what's remarkable is last week when the first protest erupted in egypt, in libya, very few people in pakistan even knew about the anti-islam movie. now, pakistan bracing itself for what could be some of the largest demonstrations in the region. cnn, islam ba. >> our thanks. >>> next hour in starting point, soledad talks to jamie rubin about the rising anger in the muslim world. >>> the state department is on the defensive facing accusations it failed to properly protect the u.s. consulate in benghazi despite a host of security warnings. the u.s. ambassador to libya, chris stevens and three other americans were killed in an attack on the consulate last week. senior state department officials telling cnn there were a lot of concerns about a rise in islamic extremism in benghazi and that a recommendation to close the mission never got passed up the chain of command. meantime the obama administration finally conceding the attack was an act of terrorism. secretary of state hillary clinton announcing the formation of a panel to investigate it. >> there are obviously very real challenges in
what's remarkable is last week when the first protest erupted in egypt, in libya, very few people in pakistan even knew about the anti-islam movie. now, pakistan bracing itself for what could be some of the largest demonstrations in the region. cnn, islam ba. >> our thanks. >>> next hour in starting point, soledad talks to jamie rubin about the rising anger in the muslim world. >>> the state department is on the defensive facing accusations it failed to properly protect...
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consulate in benghazi, libya. we're just getting this information coming in. we know there was also an attack on the u.s. embassy today. this, the 11th anniversary of 9/11 on the u.s. embassy and cairo, as well. erin burnett "outfront" will have moch much more at the top of the hour. >>> few politicians are more closely associated with 9/11 than rudy guiliani. after the attacks, the former new york city mayor became known as america's mayor as he helped lead the nation forward. you've described 9/11 as both the worst day and the best day. explain why you said that. >> the worst day, because it was the worst attack, domestic attack in the history of my c country, or you have to go back to the revolution and the war of 1812 and civil war to look for similar kinds of things. certainly, new york city. and at the same time, it was a day of more heroism, more
consulate in benghazi, libya. we're just getting this information coming in. we know there was also an attack on the u.s. embassy today. this, the 11th anniversary of 9/11 on the u.s. embassy and cairo, as well. erin burnett "outfront" will have moch much more at the top of the hour. >>> few politicians are more closely associated with 9/11 than rudy guiliani. after the attacks, the former new york city mayor became known as america's mayor as he helped lead the nation...
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and throughout north africa we have seen the resurgence, frankly, of al qaeda, both in the east of libya, and in the mali, mauritania area, and then we come to al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, including recently. there was a large al qaeda cell broken up into saudi arabia, and it was originally this al qaeda in the arabian peninsula which was in yemen was originally in saudi, saudi efforts pushed them out of the kingdom but we've seen even there they've continued to try to go back into the kingdom as well as yemen to launch and plan attacks. >> fran townsend, thanks so much for joining us. we'll be back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. your new light creamy potato with bacon & cheese soup says it's 100 calories a serving. that's right. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. my world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... [ whispers ] 100 calories... say it again... [ whispers ] 100 calories... ma'am, hello? ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. but between check-ups tartar builds. keep it clean with new lister
and throughout north africa we have seen the resurgence, frankly, of al qaeda, both in the east of libya, and in the mali, mauritania area, and then we come to al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, including recently. there was a large al qaeda cell broken up into saudi arabia, and it was originally this al qaeda in the arabian peninsula which was in yemen was originally in saudi, saudi efforts pushed them out of the kingdom but we've seen even there they've continued to try to go back into the...